[Downtown Victoria] The Jukebox | Condos | 8-storeys | Approved

[aastra]

Me no understand. The first proposal for this site a few years ago consisted of a pair of well-spaced junior highrise buidlings. Thumbs down. So then came a proposal for a more fatscraper-esque midrise building with a junior highrise section on one end. Thumbs down. So then came this lowrise/midrise proposal. Thumbs down yet again?

What's left to propose? A skyscraper? A townhouse complex?

The well-spaced junior highrises represented the right format for the site, in my opinion. The design just needed some work.

[Blue Horseshoe]

So now what? anyone?

[Mike K.]

We'll just have to wait to see the reason(s) for denying the permit.

Like G-man says, this proposal as designed should fall under the Harris Green guidelines.

[Rob Randall]

Originally Posted by G-Man

It seems odd as it complies with the Harris Green Plan, they should be supporting it.

No, there are not nearly enough setbacks to conform with the guidelines. HG highrises are supposed to be stepped back as they rise. Council would likely say yes if the developer carved density off the upper floors.

[Mike K.]

Setbacks? Oh brother.

[G-Man]

aren't the setbacks only supposed to occur above the 6th floor? And isn't this one setback to comply with that ? It looks like it to me?

Beyond Ridiculous!!! I am with Aastra. The previous proposal was more in line with what I wanted it just needed refinement. This is a smaller project and the city is still going nuts.

[2F2R]

>>>So now what? anyone?<<

Well I bet if what was proposed was a plain box walk-up four story square flat roofed boring apartment block with absolutely no architectural flavor what so ever … and they dug a hole to build it in … set it back … put a not needed walk through in … painted it as bland a color as possible … then sent it back to the architect to shave one floor off … then debated it for three more years … they would make the right decision … NO TALL BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS ALLOWED … you will scare away the tourists … block out the sun … run us short of undeveloped sites in town … just plain ruin the city … but of course as residents of the city … we have the right to not have to be subjected to any chances in our area as long as we are still alive … unless it is something that we want … then it must be done immediately … and what we want is what our rights as citizens of this World Class City are and that is no changes to anything … especially not in my backyard … in his backyard is ok … just not in my backyard … I don’t know why we even entertain development and change at all … have we already forgotten what split city council when the Eaton Center was proposed … remember the people with vision were smart enough to warn us that if the Eaton Center was build it would create a big black hole downtown … I, as a 55 year citizen of this city want to thank the visionary’s for protecting us from the kind of runaway disasters that would occur if they were not looking out for their own interests … woops, I mean looking out for the Cities best interest. Oh Ya, one last thing … Admirals and Craigflower … heading out of town … five lanes funneling into one … shear infrastructure genius … hey, remember all the whining the residents near Pat Bay and McKenzie did when they put in the interchange … THEY did not want it because THEIR park … they thought was threatened … Geesh! Can you imagine … as I said earlier … thank goodness the Parliament Buildings and the Empress were built so long ago … can you imagine if they were proposed today … yup, send ‘em back … … …

[Bob Fugger]

I think that the architect should have built a small scale replica of some building in London. That way, he wouldn't have had his scary looking futuristic Jetson building voted down.

EDIT: I should have clarified: I meant some old, heritage building in London. In fact, for a city founded by the Romans in 43AD, London has managed to integrate some very modern, avant garde architecture into its cityscape. But that wouldn't be appropriate, here.

[VicHockeyFan]

What could become downtown Victoria's newest condo is a nine-storey, $30-million building designed to recall memories of the 1950s when life seemed simpler and technology solved all problems, its architects say.

The Jukebox, proposed by CareVest Capital and Don Charity, and designed by Gustavson Wylie Architects, would fill a vacant lot at 1029 View St. near Vancouver Street.

Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/Victori...#ixzz1BO6Qw6Bn

[G-Man]

Reasonable words from Councillor Madoff. There really is no need for a walkway here.

[2F2R]

>>>a nine-storey, $30-million building designed to recall memories of the 1950s when life seemed simpler<<<

I wonder what would have been the decision if this was proposed in the 50's ... ...

[Dylan Leblanc]

wow, I'm glad to hear about the increase in the number of floors. if anywhere can handle it, it's here.

[Kapten Kapsell]

Originally Posted by Dylan Leblanc

wow, I'm glad to hear about the increase in the number of floors. if anywhere can handle it, it's here.

Some of the increase may be related to the fact that they can't put any underground parking at the site. So most of the second floor will likely be parkade space (a la 860 View or The Cherry Bank).

[jonny]

The rendering in the TC article looks quite a bit different (and substantially better) than the rendering in this thread. The same two cars are parked outside though! :P

I'm coming around on this project. While I would prefer a tower since this is IMO right in Harris Green, the size and massing does not look bad, and I think a case could be made for this type of building fitting into the surrounding buildings. Recent new buildings nearby like the Mosaic and 947 Fort are similar stylistically in that they are short and relatively wide.

One thing I think anybody would agree on is that the existing lot is a horrible eyesore. Hopefully it’s not contaminated, council approves the DP and this moves ahead relatively quickly.

[Islander888]

The Jukebox has passed the design panel and land use committee and has now been granted a development permit for the view street site. There is still some clean up to be done however construction and marketing should commence very soon.

[Nparker]

Good news! I look forward to this one being completed. Let's hope it turns out well.

[Baro]

The architecture does nothing for me, but I'm a fan of some density being added to that lot finally. Don't tell pam I said that!

[Dylan Leblanc]

A building of this size at this end of downtown will sure be different. :tup:

[Islander888]

Agreed, 198 new units in Harris Green is going to add some excitement

Originally Posted by Dylan Leblanc

A building of this size at this end of downtown will sure be different. :tup:

[aastra]

So does this image represent the final product?
http://www.timescolonist.com/4124584.bin?size=620x400

This building in Portland made me think of the View Street proposal:
http://hoytliving.com/slideshows/bui...Bridgeport.jpg

[jklymak]

^ Huh, well, I prefer the one you linked to the old one.

[Dylan Leblanc]

Originally Posted by Dylan Leblanc

A building of this size at this end of downtown will sure be different. :tup:

oops, I meant to post this comment in the thread for the Mondrian.

[gumgum]

I am very excited to see this infill, but I am not a fan of this design at all. It's too jumbled and busy IMO. Its lack of identity reminds me of EssencianVerde.

[G-Man]

I think that this may be one of those examples of the building being better than the rendering. I like the massing and as long as they use quality materials and no vinyl siding it should be pretty cool. I am still not certain about the commercial aspect as I think that it should be focused on Fort and Yates but it may work...

[gumgum]

I think the commercial is a big mistake. Just look at the View St side of the London Drugs building. If it weren't for the liqour store,'it would be a dead zone - and that's a more populated area.