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[url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070126.BCOAKS26/TPStory/TPNational/BritishColumbia:d8697]Cultivated by First Nations for centuries, garry oaks now endangered[/url:d8697] Quote:
The history of garry oaks as part of an ecosystem cultivated by First Nations was news to me, although I guessed that a number of things in my immediate neighbourhood probably dated back prior to European settlement, like the trails going up Christmas Hill. |
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Intersting stuff. I didn't know about the native cultivation factor either. I think they should be preserved as much as possible as they are trees I've never seen anywhere else in my travels. They are quite striking. |
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Preserving the remaining areas is great, but why not also create new ones or restore ones that were only recently destroyed? Should be easy to do. Nobody ever seems to mention it but I'm convinced the Garry Oak areas strike a lot of people as being unkempt and esthetically displeasing. Big rocks, tall dry grass, scraggly trees...people think they're doing nature a favour by ripping it all out and replacing it with a green lawn and (shudder) evergreen trees. Breaks my heart. I believe there are new Garry Oaks on the north side of Beacon Hill Park where the old angled parking area used to be, no? |
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I was showing a house for rent this afternoon in the Henderson area with three Garry oaks in the back yard, and we all walked around and I think all three of us felt the same way about them. I like them. |
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Someone say "sustainable"?
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Sadly a lot of people consider them a nuisance because of the apparently gummy stuff they shed. And many do underappreciate them esthetically. But that's just being shortsighted IMO. aastra wrote: Quote:
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People also worry about branches falling off. As if branches don't fall off of evergreens.
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I live in Rockland surrounded by Garry Oaks. I always imagine them as gnarled old woman claws. In the spring time they have such fine, light greenery that seems so delicate. Such a contrast to the twisted limbs that support it.
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But damn they make such good firewood... :shock:
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:lol:
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As for the unkempt look/ aesthetics: I love the look of the trees, but I have to admit that the scrubby stuff on the ground (mostly the grass / groundcover), all wilted and scraggly in the dry summers, doesn't look as good as it does in the wet drippy winters (when it's not sticking up as much). Which makes me wonder whether burning off the grass underneath the trees in summer (as per native practice) isn't an idea worth reviving! You'd probably get arrested, though... :shock:
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Gumgum's posting of the Gary Oak saplings in Beacon Hill Park.. I once met a man - Friend of Beacon Hill Park, who was watering these soon after they were planyed.. I understand that they have to mark them well as if they don't, the big mowers will get them and send the park back to it's mowed lawn state.. |
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I'll have to go back and see if they've grown at all.
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Here's a couple pics on the same day in the same area of some mature ones. I really think garry oaks are spectacular. [img]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/gumgum123/IMG_0534-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/gumgum123/IMG_0535-1.jpg[/img] |
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Living in rockland I'm blessed with a bit of a secret forest. Between Rockland and Richmond there is a little lane called "oak shade", and about half way down is a lot about 1/4 the size of a city block, one of the largest undeveloped residential lots in the city. It's just FULL of gary oaks. If it wasn't for the blackberries, it would be a garry oak meddow. I remember as a child it would often be tall grass, rocks, and gary oaks. Now it's mainly oaks and dense dense blackberries and other such 'brambles'. I've really not been taking care of it as well as I used to, I used to have quite a few lovely walking trails in there (that would attract school kids to smoke, do drugs, leave massive amounts of garbage, and steal people's backyard furniture). It used to be the gardens for an old mansion, but nature has taken it back. It's great to hunt aroudn back there for relics and signs of what it used to be. The odd ancient bottle, a tap sticking out of nowhere, an exotic asian plant now gone wild. This area woudl make a great park...
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Baro you live about half a block from me if you live on Oak Shade.
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There is no doubt that Garry Oaks are noble trees. The other tree that makes good fire wood is the Arbutus tree. Here are some pictures of a very rare and endangered arbutus grove that I took today. The reason that they are not SUSTAINABLE is that they are growing in Langford. [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1851_62_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1873_40_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1863_50_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1850_63_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/00450023.jpg[/img] These nest pictures are of a dwarf variety that grow more like a bush, close to the ground. [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1876_37_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1882_31_q001.jpg[/img] [img]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/ressen/IMG_1880_33_q001.jpg[/img] |
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^ great photos.
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Arbutus is my favorite tree.
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I love arbutus trees too!!! Here is that Garry Oak photo I was asked to post here!!!! [img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/thegreatscaper/sundayphotos016.jpg[/img] |
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Now thats a Garry Oak meadow.
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Scrapers Gary Oaks almost look like an orchard.. cultivated...
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Wow, these are so incredible I made a new group in Flickr. Please post your images to the site below!! I'll make a new thread about it as well. http://www.flickr.com/groups/victoriabc_florafauna/ |
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