Local road and highway development, conditions

[Holden West]

Ha, that's pretty funny. Go see the 8-bit Victoria.

[History Buff]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

G-Man, what sidewalk? All I see is the sidewalk on Cook St. and then Wellburn's parking lot.

If you use a your imagination which I suspect you can..you are able to see the sidewalk curve in.Just because there is no sign there doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
But as you know a road is a road unless of course its a highway.I can see it quite easily as most will be able to but of course there will be the naysayers out there.
If you want to micro analyze it..go ahead.
If you want an answer just call the city and ask them if its a street.
Yes there is a Wellburns parking lot and Look ...there is street side parking next to the building pictured...BUT I wouldn't jump to the conclusion and call it street side parking because there are no signs

[Holden West]

The 1953 street map clearly shows Opal Street. So, the revised question is--unless it was always a private lane--when was this public street sold off?

I'm off to my naked hot yoga class so don't have time to check the fire insurance maps (click "maps" in the upper left on that site) but I bet there are lots and maybe houses fronting Opal Street.

[VicHockeyFan]

Originally Posted by Holden West

The 1953 street map clearly shows Opal Street. So, the revised question is--unless it was always a private lane--when was this public street sold off?

Who says it was sold off? Can we find a current map with property lines and easements etc.?

Like this: http://www.savevictoriaharbour.com/1...dule_1_map.jpg

[History Buff]

[Bob Fugger]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

Bob, where is Harling Lane?

It must have just been signed recently (actual City street sign), as it does not exist on Google maps. But it's right here: http://g.co/maps/kq888. I'll try to get a shot of it on my way home today.

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by pseudotsuga

^check the link, Bigrock is signed.
I do wonder what the history is there - it's a funny little road. Barely even a cul-de-sac.

I said Bigrock has no street sign because I used the link and did a 360 degree turn twice. I saw nothing so I don't know what you're seeing.

[pseudotsuga]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

I said Bigrock has no street sign because I used the link and did a 360 degree turn twice. I saw nothing so I don't know what you're seeing.

It's there - at the end of the road, posted under the public beach access sign.
I've never been down that way, will have to check it out sometime.

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by History Buff

If you use a your imagination which I suspect you can..you are able to see the sidewalk curve in.Just because there is no sign there doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
But as you know a road is a road unless of course its a highway.I can see it quite easily as most will be able to but of course there will be the naysayers out there.
If you want to micro analyze it..go ahead.
If you want an answer just call the city and ask them if its a street.
Yes there is a Wellburns parking lot and Look ...there is street side parking next to the building pictured...BUT I wouldn't jump to the conclusion and call it street side parking because there are no signs

Yeah, how silly of me to not see that street sign and sidewalk going into Wellburn's parking lot!

Originally Posted by pseudotsuga

It's there - at the end of the road, posted under the public beach access sign.
I've never been down that way, will have to check it out sometime.

I finally found it under the sign that says "public beach access". That is absurd, it's just a little tiny driveway that splits in two.

[Sparky]

^ Geezus .....there's my bike!

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by Bob Fugger

Harling Lane in Fairfield is another little anomaly.

Now I see why I couldn't find it in Fairfield, because it's between downtown and the Cook St. village. It's basically a little back alley with no addresses on it so we can also file it under, "why the hell is there even a streetsign there?!?!?!"

Originally Posted by Robb

I think West Saanich Road lost its Highway 17A designation when the province offloaded it to the municipalities in 2010.

In my opinion that former designation was the only thing that made it a highway in any sense of the term.

Provincial Numbered Routes
Wikipedia article

I never knew it was considered a highway (History Buff was actually right about something!) but I can't imagine why given that it's two lanes and the speed limit is 50-60 km/h.

[sebberry]

If you want to get picky, every road regardless of where it is or what the speed limit is is considered a "highway" under the MVA

[Dylan Leblanc]

Some roads are considered to be secondary highways in case the main highway gets closed for some reason. (Hwy 17A would be secondary for Hwy 17)

[VicHockeyFan]

BC to install a bunch more webcams along TCH this spring. I missed all the deets, but one at McKenzie, Admirals, one at Lake Cow turnoff etc.

[Sparky]

^

Province adds seven new webcams to island highways

Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/Provinc...#ixzz1t5lowOre

[VicHockeyFan]

Originally Posted by Sparky

^

Province adds seven new webcams to island highways

Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/Provinc...#ixzz1t5lowOre

The new cameras will be located at:

• Trans-Canada Highway and Admirals/McKenzie in Saanich

• Trans-Canada Highway and Colwood Interchange in View Royal

• Trans-Canada Highway and Cobble Hill/Cowichan Bay Road

• Highway 4 and the Tofino/Ucluelet junction

• Highway 14 east of Port Renfew

• Highway 19 and Highway 30 south of Port Hardy

• Highway 19 at French Creek

[Bob Fugger]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

Now I see why I couldn't find it in Fairfield, because it's between downtown and the Cook St. village.

I'd check again. That's definitely Fairfield.

[rjag]

I hate flower pots in the middle of our roads

Thought this may be of some interest to some folks here.

[JohnN]

Several interesting comments posted after the article...

Why road tolls are beneficial to the economy

GARY MASON
Globe and Mail
Sep. 18 2012

One day, perhaps not that long from now, people in Metro Vancouver will look back at the public grousing ignited by a couple of new bridge tolls in the region and realize how lucky they had it.

The world’s transportation system is on the verge of another revolution – one that may be as profound, or more so, than the ones that preceded it. The steam engine gave us trains, which opened up countries. Electricity gave us trolleys that spurred urban expansion. And the internal combustion engine gave us the automobile and, ultimately, the roads that are now teeming with them.

READ MORE:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/why-road-tolls-are-beneficial-to-the-economy/article4550376/

[Mr Cook Street]

I couldn't agree more. Our infrastructure needs a huge cash infusion, and municipalities do not have the resources to invest.

[VicHockeyFan]

6pm Monday night.

Why do we need LRT?

[JohnN]

Originally Posted by VicHockeyFan

6pm Monday night.

Why do we need LRT?

We need LRT because:

...CRD boosters want to show other cities that we have an LRT, and are therefore thoroughly modern, cool, hipster, proto-Europeans.

On a 6pm Monday night, just like the empty highway, the billion-dollar LRT would probably be empty too. But that wouldn't bother CRD directors and LRT promoters because the LRT would be financed by Other-Peoples-Money (federal, provincial, local) and even running empty, an LRT would make a magnificently glorious "statement" about CRD's everlasting commitment to monumental triumphalism ...on tracks.

Prominent O-P-M LRT supporters include (but certainly not limited to) NDPers Savoie, Garrison, Popham, Fleming, Brownoff, Luton, Murdock and Cubberley. Same tax-and-spend politicians who want an unnecessary O-P-M sewage treatment plant are rooting for an O-P-M LRT.

Region will still spend many millions upgrading bus transit - as well as building that much-maligned MacKenzie Overpass - but the LRT is such a sexy socialist project!

[Dylan Leblanc]

The highway only looks that way because all of the cars are held up at red lights which are just off camera at either end of the road. In 20 seconds there'll be a roar of cars in all four lanes.

[sebberry]

He should have taken the photo anytime between 2:30 and 5 PM

[Bingo]

It's a time exposure taken at 1:12 am, and that is not the sun, but the moon.