Head Shops

[VicHockeyFan]

I guess it opened a week or so ago, at Cook and North Park. Never noticed until today. Funny thing is, it is just a 1/4-block up from a legal marijuana dispensary, in the 1000-blk North Park St. I missed the odd North Park neighbourhood meeting, but last I has heard they were intending to turn it into an ice cream place, like the one adjacent to the other Pizza 420. Oh, I see, it used to be the Turning Heads salon, they re-used the same sign. There guys are creative for guys smoking pot all the time. ... Wait a minute, what's Phillipe Lucas up to these days?

https://www.facebook.com/TurningHeadsHeadShop

Your local Victoria Head Shop, for all your smoking needs. We specialize in glass pipes and bongs as well as papers and other smoking accessories.

11am-11pm every day.

BC Smoke Shop has been going for years in Quadra Village. Do we have one in Esquimalt? Or Oak Bay?

[Holden West]

^That used to be Turning Heads hair salon but it's been vacant for several years. I give them points for creative re-use of the signage but a head shop a couple of blocks away from a high school is pretty sleazy.

I still think it's funny that can be on display while cigarettes are hidden.

There used to be a head shop in the Atlas Theatre on Yates circa 1980 before it became an office building.

[VicHockeyFan]

Originally Posted by Holden West

^That used to be Turning Heads hair salon but it's been vacant for several years. I give them points for creative re-use of the signage but a head shop a couple of blocks away from a high school is pretty sleazy.

I still think it's funny that can be on display while cigarettes are hidden.

There used to be a head shop in the Atlas Theatre on Yates circa 1980 before it became an office building.

I didn't know anyone thses days knows what a "head shop" is. I dunno, who cares if it's near the school. You telling me 10-12 graders don't know bout drugs?

Wasn't there one in Market Square, Johnson St. side at one time? Maybe next to Market Square News? ...Wait a minute, isn't that where Lucas's baby-clothes store is? Next thing, someone's gonna tell me Lucas's dad ran the Atlas Theatre.

[Nparker]

Gee, I am overjoyed to see this open in my neighbourhood. It really classes-up the area that for years has been struggling to differentiate itself from being Crackton adjacent. Bravo to whoever decided this was a great location for this particular business. My one small hope is that almost every business in this location over the past 10 years or so has gone under fairly quickly after opening, and maybe with some luck this one will experience the same fate.

[Sparky]

If it has to be......this kind of business can be performed online....why do we need a storefront to buy a new pipe or screen? I think the rent will kill them.

....and yes VHF there are still a few of us left that grew up with Haight Ashberry and Woodstock...most of us that are still alive remember how to make a pipe out of a toilet paper roll.

[420pothead]

They seem to be doing pretty well, and who cares if there is a high school near by are you telling me that a store directed to lazy stoners is worse then the crackheads a block away or the pub and liquor store with homeless people living in front across the street, or even the dispensary next door?

Also looks like they made it 19+ too which I don't think they are required to do.

I personally think with 3 out of 4 businesses in Victoria going under anyone willing to invest here is a godsend.

[VicHockeyFan]

Welcome to the forum pothead!

I know, you would have joined earlier, but somehow couldn't find the motivation for some reason...

[Langford Rat]

Originally Posted by Sparky

...most of us that are still alive remember how to make a pipe out of a toilet paper roll.

...or an apple, or a Bic pen, or a beer bottle...My Dad is probably still trying to figure out what could cause all those screens in our faucets to completely disappear. How could they possibly rust away to nothing so quickly?

[Holden West]

Originally Posted by 420pothead

who cares if there is a high school near by are you telling me that a store directed to lazy stoners is worse then the crackheads a block away or the pub and liquor store with homeless people living in front across the street, or even the dispensary next door?

I guess you don't have a young teenager at home. I don't pretend it's possible to sheild a kid from drug paraphenalia. Nor does merely seeing this stuff lead to using it, let alone abusing it of course. Still, I think it's sleazy. And seeing a junkie with a needle hanging out of his arm isn't going to make a kid think drugs are cool.

[VicHockeyFan]

^ But you don't suggest making it appear "uncool" somehow, like how the ads on smoke packs are supposed to work, do you?

Sooner or later we might learn that kids often want to do the opposite of what we'd like - they take pride in going against authority.

[Dylan Leblanc]

Anyone remember Off-the-Cuff? Man was that place x-rated inside.

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by 420pothead

I personally think with 3 out of 4 businesses in Victoria going under

I would be interested in where you may have found your research material in order to state this statistic as a fact.

[sebberry]

Originally Posted by VicHockeyFan

^ But you don't suggest making it appear "uncool" somehow, like how the ads on smoke packs are supposed to work, do you?

Sooner or later we might learn that kids often want to do the opposite of what we'd like - they take pride in going against authority.

That's why it's important for parents to instill a sense of right and wrong from an early age. This way when the kids do see a junkie with a needle hanging off his arm, they know that's not the lifestyle they want to live.

[martini]

Originally Posted by Holden West

I guess you don't have a young teenager at home. I don't pretend it's possible to sheild a kid from drug paraphenalia. Nor does merely seeing this stuff lead to using it, let alone abusing it of course. Still, I think it's sleazy. And seeing a junkie with a needle hanging out of his arm isn't going to make a kid think drugs are cool.

I have two teenagers at home, and don't see the issue here.

I am far more concerned about alcohol.

Any incident that has arisen in recent memory has involved alcohol, not weed.

I think some education and teaching responsible use makes more sense.

[Nparker]

Originally Posted by martini

..I am far more concerned about alcohol. Any incident that has arisen in recent memory has involved alcohol, not weed...

I assume you see the irony in these statements coming from someone who calls himself (herself) "martini".

[martini]

Originally Posted by Nparker

I assume you see the irony in these statements coming from someone who calls himself (herself) "martini".

Now that was funny.

[David Bratzer]

Originally Posted by martini

I have two teenagers at home, and don't see the issue here.

I am far more concerned about alcohol.

Any incident that has arisen in recent memory has involved alcohol, not weed.

I think some education and teaching responsible use makes more sense.

Great points, Martini. I think honest, fact-based drug education (as opposed to fear-based) can have a big impact.

As for the head shop, as long as it is being operated in a legal manner, I don't see a problem with it. Having an active business on a street corner, with a regular flow of customers, might even reduce public disorder (as compared to a vacant storefront).

[martini]

Originally Posted by David Bratzer

Great points, Martini. I think honest, fact-based drug education (as opposed to fear-based) can have a big impact.

As for the head shop, as long as it is being operated in a legal manner, I don't see a problem with it. Having an active business on a street corner, with a regular flow of customers, might even reduce public disorder (as compared to a vacant storefront).

Thank you. And I agree with your point about traffic deterring disorder. Very true.

[manuel]

Originally Posted by David Bratzer

. Having an active business on a street corner, with a regular flow of customers, might even reduce public disorder (as compared to a vacant storefront).

That sounds like the average dealer downtown - active business, regular flow of customers. Ok, not the public disorder.

Seriously though, when I was in high school, pot could be had in what - 5 minutes, even without cell phones at the time. Crack or coke would take a bit longer. Pot is far less dangerous than alcohol - much less dangerous for someone to get the munchies in Oak Bay than to drive home from a pub sloshed. The answer is decriminilization, not fear.

Yes, and teach our children good judgement. I survived (but I was too straight). My better half luckily survived (and went to Belmont).

[420pothead]

Originally Posted by Sparky

I would be interested in where you may have found your research material in order to state this statistic as a fact.

Meant to say 1 out of 4 and its just a guess as I have been seeing many long standing businesses shut down.