[Saanich] Uptown Shopping Centre | Phase 2 completed in 2012

DelsterX · #1 Sep 12, 2006, 07:26 AM

Merchants at the T & C have been given notice by Morgaurd that they have to be out by Decemeber 31st. (Except for Wal-mart) Demolition to start in ernest in January 2007.

**G-Man** · #2 Sep 17, 2006, 11:15 AM

They have a big display of the proposal in one of the windows at TC Mall. It is a lot uglier than I thought but perhaps but still better than what is there now.

**Mike K.** · #3 Oct 11, 2006, 10:26 AM

I shudder every time I come across the "Main Street" BS that will soon replace Town & Country.

Town and Country project delayed

By Amy Dove
Victoria News
Oct 11 2006

Construction on the new Town and Country development is slated to begin early in the new year. Originally scheduled for this October, the project is still being processed at the municipal level.

"(We are) moving forward with it, making sure it is a successful project from day one," said Geoff Nagle, with Morguard Investments. Public feedback over the summer was very positive, he added.

Over a three-year period Morguard Investments plans to spend more than $100 million to redevelop the shopping centre. The retail space will almost triple when the 600,000-square-foot complex is complete.

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**G-Man** · #4 Oct 11, 2006, 10:58 AM

This had already been pushed back to January. What are they on over there.

Ben Smith · #5 Oct 11, 2006, 07:36 PM

This is bad news and good news in my opinion.

Good news because its a big project for Saanich, bad news because its rediculous. If you calculate it out, after they brach the mall itself out, and put underground parking, they lose 40% of the parking lots!

That place was already nuts to park in! Gee whiz.

Ben

**G-Man** · #6 Oct 11, 2006, 07:37 PM

The proposal is to maintain the same level of parking though most of that will be underground.

ressen · #7 Nov 07, 2006, 10:11 AM

I went to the open house at the mall. The only pedestrian connection with the Save on foods mall is the at grade crosswalk at Ravine way and Saanich Rd. I inquired about a pedestrian tunnel or overhead walk way. A lady from Saanich municipal hall said that department of Highways has jurisdiction over that stretch of road and that Saanich would like to see a mid block at grade crossing for "traffic calming" of blanshard st.

gumgum · #8 Nov 07, 2006, 10:16 AM

I have still yet to see a decent rendering of this project.

**Mike K.** · #9 Nov 07, 2006, 10:23 AM

Traffic calming for a highway entrance into town?

Good grief. This whole traffic calming buzz is getting out of control.

Holden West · #10 Nov 07, 2006, 10:25 AM

PROPERTY REPORT / RETAIL
Putting life into an aging mall, with style
In hemmed-in Victoria suburb, mall owner embraces densification in order to expand

PETER MITHAM

POSTED ON 07/11/06
Special to The Globe and Mail

SAANICH, B.C. -- The owner of the Town & Country Shopping Centre in Saanich, a suburb of Victoria, has long had big plans to develop the 45-year-old site into a modern shopping destination serving a growing community.

There's just one problem -- there's no room to expand.

Growth has pushed the community to the limits of an urban containment boundary the municipality instituted in 1964 to manage demand for city services. But years of traditional, low-density development have maxed out the district's available urban land base, prompting owners to consider redeveloping sites with more intense, mixed-use developments that do more with the land they occupy.

A case in point is a proposal that Toronto-based Morguard Investments Ltd. has put forward for the Town & Country, located in Saanich's business core.

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aastra · #11 Nov 07, 2006, 11:01 AM

A gigantic Wal-Mart right on the edge of the city proper didn't wreck Victoria, so now we'll find out if a Wal-Mart twice that size will be able to do it. That's going to be a huge store.

**G-Man** · #12 Nov 07, 2006, 11:04 AM

Overwaitea? Man when was the last time the write was in Victoria?

aastra · #13 Nov 07, 2006, 11:16 AM

It was never Overwaitea. It opened as a Save-On Foods. He's just using the brand name that has meaning to readers in Ontario.

ressen · #14 Nov 07, 2006, 03:41 PM

They spoke of a food store going in under the housing building (high rise) but I think that Walmart might build one of their walmart super stores that also sell groceries and not just a few isles of frozen or dry foods. I heard on the radio today that they plan 14 of these stores in Canada; the first one opened today in Ontario. Did Fairways move to Quadra because they are loosing this location?

**G-Man** · #15 Nov 07, 2006, 03:49 PM

I don't think that was the main reason. Quadra village needed a good supermarket like that.

**VicHockeyFan** · #16 Nov 07, 2006, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ressen

...Walmart might build one of their walmart super stores that also sell groceries and not just a few isles of frozen or dry foods. I heard on the radio today that they plan 14 of these stores in Canada; the first one opened today in Ontario.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/fina ... 25&k=27203

Wal-Mart unveils grocery force to be reckoned with

m0nkyman · #17 Nov 07, 2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ressen

A lady from Saanich municipal hall said that department of Highways has jurisdiction over that stretch of road and that Saanich would like to see a mid block at grade crossing for "traffic calming" of blanshard st.

Yeah, that'll end up killing someone. Everyone who has come in from the Ferry does the exact same thing on that stretch; About 75kmh, cause they haven't quite mentally shifted over to the four lane in each direction divided road being a 50hmh zone

ops: .... Putting an at grade crossing onto the four lane in each direction divided road there is fricking nuts.

'Cause we all know that when a road is divided and has four lanes in each direction, traffic calming is going to work. :roll:

Galvanized · #18 Nov 07, 2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ressen

A lady from Saanich municipal hall said that department of Highways has jurisdiction over that stretch of road and that Saanich would like to see a mid block at grade crossing for "traffic calming" of blanshard st.

How can Saanich even consider traffic calming a major thoroughfare like that when they don't even have proper sidewalks on thier collector roads. What a joke.

aastra · #19 Nov 07, 2006, 07:30 PM

Here's a tiny image from way back:

FunkyMunky · #20 Nov 07, 2006, 11:53 PM

They have a display in one of the shop windows between Wal-Mart and Moore's. On the wall there is a box with glossy four page brouchures. For your convenience, here are the pages.

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