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Do we have a thread (or post) on the Cuff Report yet? South Island 2020 just posted this question, The Taxpayers of Victoria Deserves answers now - Release the Cuff reportFrom what I heard and remember (thru the grapevine), part of what George Cuff investigated was the relationship between Community Associations (CAs) and the City / Council, and I understood that Cuff concluded that Victoria was the worst situation he had ever seen/ encountered, insofar as CAs in this city meddle in municipal governance. So, yeah, what happened to his report, and is this another instance of sitting on something (vs. releasing it), because it wouldn't be convenient for some vested interests to have transparency? If the city hires a consultant to prepare an expensive report, is it ethical not to release its findings to the public as soon as they're available? Anyone have any other info on this?
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^ It truly bizarre how much power unelected people in the community associations have.
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I hope the election doesn't have anything to do with the delay because if there is trouble in City Hall, voters deserve to know about it before casting a ballot. There were a lot of interviewees who had a lot to say. I was interviewed twice by Cuff, once with the other CA Chairs and once individually. I'm looking forward to the report. I'm sure it will be enlightening.
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I didn't fill out Cuff's questionnaire, but here's one sheet of questions asked of CA-involved people: Questions Relative to Neighbourhood AssociationsPS: This questionnaire was circulated last summer (June/ July?).
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| Absolutely right.
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Wow, I really would like to see this report.
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| WOW - is this just for City of Victoria, or does it apply to CRD as a whole. I could add one other question - 'do any of your board of directors have a contract with the city' (so many versions of that it would take pages)
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Anyone know the city manager (Penny Ballantyne) well enough to ask her? :-)
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| Myself and mat need a better understanding of this report, and also what you know of this.
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^ From what I understood (and it's 3rd hand, so I need verification from ppl actually involved), Cuff asked all the CAs to respond to the questions in the document I posted, above. He was hired, as per what I heard, to report on the role of CAs and how what they do affects city hall. The explosive bit is that additional hearsay suggested that he found Victoria's CAs to have too much power to interfere in city governance. That was last summer, and I haven't heard anything since -- not confirmation nor refutation. But reading South Island 2020's post reminded me of the whole thing, and like they, I'm now very curious as to what happened to the report. I'd like to see it.
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^thank you. Very interesting. I was unaware of this connection between city hall and CAs.
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This is not to detract from the goals and often positive results of neighbourhood/resident associations, and the role they can take in making councils aware of important issues. However, transparency as to influence on council decisions should be a priority. |
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Take Crystalview as an example. What exactly is happening with this project? The James Bay Neighborhood Association (JBNA) has maintained opposition while the community at-large championed the rejuvenation of the site and a new satellite art gallery. To the average observer it would appear as though the interests of one group outweighed the interests of others, and further to that, city planners at one point decide to halt the progress of the project without releasing any details to the public. So what's really happening? Is one community association the only organization worthy of input on such a major project? Are city planners under political and community (JBNA) pressure? We deserve to know what is really going on and why some constituents appear have more clout than others.
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| Send an letter to Council as an active on-line community of interested citizens and candidates requesting that the Cuff report be released to the public proir to the election. Include your intentions to notify the media if the findings are not released before Nov 15th. That should cast some light.
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I'm fairly confident that with South Island 2020 posing this question and VibrantVictoria discussing it, regular media organizations will be quick to knock on city hall's door.
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Thats good to know. Can you fill me in on South Island 2020. Its the first time I have heard of this. I assume it's a forum as well? Thx Sue
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SI2020 was originally called Victoria 2020 and it is a website that spun out of the Victoria 2020 conference held several years ago. It is financed by the development community, I believe (?)
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| They are not very open on their 'about' page - some interesting links and articles on the site though
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DV2020 is still active, but following its mandate to "complete rather than compete" with other organizations, has instead been focusing its efforts on lending support to non-profits, or to other groups who are working towards a better downtown.
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Caramia is right -- victoria2020 (now renamed, but still using the former domain name) has nothing to do with "Downtown Victoria 2020." It's hard to find out who writes the entries. The name is registered, course. See this "who-is" page: Registrant: HarbouWerks StrategiesBack to issues around what's in the report: I have to repeat that what I heard was second-hand, but it came from credible sources. And if I heard it, then other people heard it, which means that for reasons of transparency, the report should be released now. And we (Victoria residents) paid for it. Let's see the results.
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this is really not such hot stuff. community associations receive - what? - 50 cents per resident (?) to conduct community forums, publish newsletters and communicate with residents (hey everybody, VIHA has decided a needle exchange is coming to our neighbourhood, right next to the elementary school -- we will facilitate a meeting so you can talk about it.) the association can't stop unwanted social services popping up in neighbourhoods or put a halt to development -- they can just pass on the information to the city from the meeting -- ie the neighbours arent pleased to host junkies and tweakers or the neighbours don't want their views compromised or whatever. mayor and council make decisions. or staff make them for them. community associations are powerless to effect change -- all they can do is argue with staff and argue with council on behalf of the expressed wishes of their neighbours. You want to join or take over a neighbourhood or community association? jump in -- it's a bunch of volunteers concerned about the place they live. |
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