[Johnson Street Bridge] General discussion

Comment by Mike K. [ 143955 ]

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:46:55 +0000

The discussion on the TC's coverage of the Johnson Street Bridge project has been moved to the dedicated TC discussion thread.

Comment by R0ark [ 143763 ]

Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:30:06 +0000

Big Blue: It isn't over by Sam Williams, September 2010 Round 2 in the battle of Johnson Street Bridge finally gets underway "My recommendations and conclusions will be along these lines: Retrofit rather than replace...retrofit to lifeline standards can be achieved by installing a new, relatively flexible foundation to relieve the existing timber pile arrangement. Together with electrical/mechanical upgrades, painting and other rehab items this retrofit option is currently estimated to cost in the order of $8.6M." �Dr Joost Meyboom, November 21, 2008 Main Article: http://focusonline.ca/?q=node%2F93 Proponents for a new bridge: read the above and discuss.

Comment by Holden West [ 143460 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 05:23:21 +0000

I am going to go through the cost estimates for the bridge very closely because something seems very wrong Don't forget the lengthy amortization cost of borrowing. Sam Williams brought that dubious bit of accounting up in Focus recently, IIRC. Geoff Young criticized it, too.

Comment by Mike K. [ 143458 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 05:21:41 +0000

Where do I find it? I saw it several years ago on tv. I cannot remember the channel, but it was likely Discovery or Knowledge Network.

Comment by Baro [ 143456 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 05:06:47 +0000

You can find all the comparable bridges, similar refurbishments, ignored reports and experts, and city mis-truths you want but the fact is the city is dead-set on this and is not going to back down or admit they screwed up or worse, outright lied to the public. The public doesn't care enough and the city has just enough spin and PR to keep things going.

Comment by Bernard [ 143454 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:54:39 +0000

That is amazing work. It only points to the utter lack of imagination of interest in keeping the existing bridge here. One major reason the Lions Gate was refurbished and a new one was not built is because the cost of a new bridge is much, much higher. I am going to go through the cost estimates for the bridge very closely because something seems very wrong

Comment by R0ark [ 143451 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:11:01 +0000

Indeed Aastra. It's amazing what can't be done when you don't want to do it.

Comment by aastra [ 143442 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:24:44 +0000

The physics that govern bridge rehab work are totally different in Victoria as compared to that area of Vancouver. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO19dEsbgo0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qunH5jq8jTI

Comment by Bernard [ 143441 ]

Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:16:15 +0000

I have posted my quick comparison of the two projects, there is none, the Lions Gate one is five to ten times as big a project. The last cost estimates seem to be a work of creative accounting and not a reflection of reality

Comment by Bernard [ 143412 ]

Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:30:11 +0000

There is a documentary on the bridge and the rehab. Worth watching! Where do I find it?